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IP is Not “Not Property”

[From my Webnote series]

See also, other posts and articles on the impossibility of “owning ideas,” including:

As I have pointed out many times, the argument against intellectual property rights is not that IP rights, or IP law, or IP itself,1 is “not property,” as many people put it, even my fellow opponents of IP.2 The question is not: are ideas (information, patterns, etc.) property or not. It’s whether IP laws are just or compatible with the fundamental or foundational libertarian principles of justice, of property rights.

And they are not. As I pointed out previously, [continue reading…]

  1. These are all distinct concepts. See Kinsella, “Intellectual Property versus Intellectual Property Rights.” As Yiannopoulos writes. “Accurate analysis should reserve the use of the word property for the designation of rights that persons have with respect to things.” And just as mind is distinct from brain, person or self is distinct from body (corpus), and a property right in a thing is distinct from the thing itself. On this latter point, see “What Libertarianism Is,” in Legal Foundations of a Free Society [LFFS] (Houston, Texas: Papinian Press, 2023) [LFFS]; [*** to be done:  NEW WEBNOTE ON PROPERTY, PROPERTY RIGHTS AND OWNERSHIP, AND THINGS SUBJECT TO PROPERTY RIGHTS]. []
  2. As an example, see Masnick: Creation Does Not Equal Ownership, where some Objectivist in the comments says “This is the Achilles Heel of the anti-IP claim that only stuff and never ideas can be property.” For other examples, see “Libertarian and IP Answer Man: Artificial Intelligence and IP”, “Intellectual Property versus Intellectual Property Rights,” Speaking at APEE IP Panel in Guatemala (re paper by the anti-IP Lucca Tanzillo Dos Santos, “Ideas Are Not Property: A Cross-Country Analysis of Institutions and Innovation”), Morin on Patents (2013), Munger on Property Rights in Words and Information. []
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You wouldn’t download a car!

Good parody of the stupid “you wouldn’t steal a car” and “you wouldn’t download a car” analogy to “stealing” works protected by copyright, like songs, movies, books.

Update: You wouldn’t steal a… font? Famous anti-piracy campaign from the early 2000s ‘uses pirated typeface’

Copying, Patent Infringement, Copyright Infringement are not “Theft”, Stealing, Piracy, Plagiarism, Knocking Off, Ripping Off

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[From my Webnote series]

Actually, Kevin Carson: Intellectual Property is Theft! and Sanchez: Intellectual Property Is Theft

See my post Copying is Not A Tort.

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Regarding Musk and Dorsey: “delete all IP law”

Chamath Palihapitiya tweeted about all this.

In response, I wrote (lightly edited here):

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[From my Webnote series]

[TO BE UPDATED… WORK IN PROGRESS…]

Trevor Hultner: Patent “Trolls” are Bad. Patents are Worse

Patent Trolls Are Preferable to “Practicing Entities”

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Social intercourse is facilitated by the use of words, and man uses them with freedom. If by some process it became possible for some favored portion of society to control these symbols, the normal circulation of thought would become disturbed

Liberty, 1891

https://x.com/breckyunits/status/1914420110346829995

Click to access 08-02.pdf

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from https://c4sif.org/2022/07/benjamin-tucker-and-the-great-nineteenth-century-ip-debates-in-liberty-magazine/

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IP as Contract

[From my Webnote series]

See: Stephan Kinsella, “Law and Intellectual Property in a Stateless Society,” in Legal Foundations of a Free Society (Houston, Texas: Papinian Press, 2023), Part III.C.

Also: Penner on Intellectual Property, Monopolies, and Property: recognizes IP rights as protected by law are “not rights in personambut rights against the whole world“—i.e., in rem rights.

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From a twitter post. Kinsella on fie-ya.

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In the wake of Jack Dorsey’s and Elon Musk’s recent criticism of intellectual property (IP) law,1 it’s no surprise the usual suspects—vested interests, IP attorneys—are pushing back. Case in point is a Bloomberg Law article by Christopher Suarez, an IP litigator with Steptoe, “Musk and Dorsey’s Call to ‘Delete All IP Law’ Ignores Reality,” Bloomberg Law (April 18, 2025). But it’s of the same old confusions and myths and provides no coherent argument in favor of IP law, especially its two most harmful forms, patent and copyright.

Doing a complete fisking would merely illustrate Brandolini’s Law, so I’ll just mention a few things. [continue reading…]

  1. Musk and Dorsey: “delete all IP law” []
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Chevalier on Patents as Industrial Monopoly Privileges

It is easy to see that the patent for invention is a privilege and an industrial monopoly, of the same family as those of the Middle Ages which were abolished immediately after 1789.

Il est facile de voir que le brevet d’invention est un privilège et un monopole industriel, de la même famille que ceux du moyen âge qu’on a abolis immédiatement après 1789. —Michel Chevalier

From Stéphane Geyres’s tweet:


From Michel Chevalier et les brevets d’invention (Treaty of Invention Patents and Industrial Counterfeiting); Traité des brevets d’invention et de la contrefaçon industrielle, précédé d’une théorie sur les inventions industrielles; Gallica version. See also: Michel Chevalier (Wikipedia); Louis Rouanet, “Michel Chevalier’s Forgotten Case Against the Patent System,” Libertarian Papers 7 (1) (2015): 73–94.

 

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KOL460 | Rant about the “China is Stealing Our IP” Myth

Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 460.

I mean the title says it all. I kept getting interrupted by calls and deliveries. Oh well, what you gonna do.

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Clausen: Book Essay: The strange world of Ayn Rand

Excerpt from this 2009 article:

Control freak
One striking feature of Objectivism is it outspoken support of intellectual property. A key scene in Atlas Shrugged is where metallurgist genius Hank Rearden is compelled by the government to hand over his intellectual rights to his innovative metal alloy, and Ayn Rand acted in kind. She passionately used the copyright on her works to bar people from forming “John Galt Societies”, citing that the name John Galt is her creation and her intellectual property.

For a person bent on propagating her ideas to the maximum extent possible, this would seem eerily counterproductive. Stealing an object from someone is obviously depriving the original owner of his property, but copying it isn’t. It may or may not be harmful to potential income, but that income remains potential, in the realm of the unprovable. This is a debate that incites extreme passion.

While Objectivists, libertarians and conservatives strongly agree on the principle of physical property rights, the picture is much more divided when it comes to ‘intellectual property’, a catch-all phrase for several different items, including patents, copyright and trademarks. In a landmark essay by Stephan Kinsella, Against Intellectual Property, argues that ‘Intellectual property’ is not only meaningless and harmful, it is in direct violation of the general principle of private property, and primarily constitutes a state-sanctioned creation of artificial scarcity, leading ultimately to poverty, not job creation and wealth.

The wider libertarian movement accepted the argument, put it into action (see www.mises.org/books) and moved on. Objectivists, on the other hand, maintain that what Ayn Rand spoke and practiced on the subject remains the unalterable truth.

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A commentary on and summary of Contre la Propriété Intellectuelle, a French translation of Against Intellectual Property, by Marius-Joseph Marchetti, has been published here: Contre la propriété intellectuelle : un essai éclairant [Part 1], and Part 2. The Google auto-translation is appended below, with light edits.

Against Intellectual Property: An Enlightening Essay

By Marius-Joseph Marchetti

August 7, 2019

Let’s dive into a quality libertarian work: Against Intellectual Property by N. Stephen Kinsella (and translated into French by Stéphane Geyres and Daivy Merlijs). The 76-page book aims to fulfill several roles, which it fulfills very well. It is divided into four parts, each essential for having an overall vision of intellectual property. [continue reading…]

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