How to Slow Economic Progress, Mises Daily June 1, 2011. Archived comments:
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The same goes for IP-communists: they hate property rights so much that they want to attack the most important property rights – full ownership control of services derived from inventions and original works authorship.
Currently, authors have economic incentives to mass-produce their works and sell limited services (personal use) of copyrighted materials to general public. IP-communists want to limit the scope of property rights to such extent that general public should be allowed to assume full ownership over all works that were designated for personal, non-commercial use ONLY. This communization and organized theft would completely destroy all profit motivation in today’s markets for copyrighted goods (a vast majority of all works produced). These fanatics would bring us back to the Dark ages, motivated by economic ignorance and good intentions.
1) They are rights enforced by the state.
2) They keep non-owners from doing what they want with the property.
3) The owners of the property don’t deserve it .
4) We’d all be better off if we shared.
Thus your ownership in your car is enforced by a government bureaucracy for which (among other things) the state taxes owners and buyers. That ownership gives you a monopoly on that car’s use and prevents other people from doing stuff with their own property (e.g. driving it from place to place in your car). And everyone would be better off if your car were shared with other people who want to use it!
“But the materials to make cars are scarce, ideas aren’t!” . Yah, right. You try coming up with a patentable idea and then let’s talk about how scarce they are.
There is lots wrong with US Intellectual Property Law and there are serious libertarian arguments to be made for revision. But those arguments all seem to elude Kinsella; perhaps because he is, in the end, hostile to the idea of property itself.
Patents are obsolete.
The fundamental reasoning for my skeptical position on this topic is based on the motivations of the inventor. The inventor will act to maximize his own gains for any given invention. Today, there is a path to the mass market which is copyright and patent. Without that protection, many ideas may not be published or come to the attention of others at all. Who can make software in the face of Microsoft or Google? What incentive does someone have if their efforts to create something are simply swept up by a “more efficient” user of resources?
What then happens is obfuscation: Drug companies could contract with certain clinics or hospitals for the administration of certain cures. They could work to keep the compound secret via contract with patients, doctors, and/or other components of the supply chain. There would be no “generic” of an item because another company would have to re-engineer the compound or process completely.
Special machines would be subject to rent or lease agreements and not purchase. A company like Caterpillar could create a new earth-moving tool, but they could also work toward a contract model where they retain ownership of the actual equipment (since that is the only item of value to Kinsella). HP could invent a new printing technology, but then make it only available for use at a local Kinko’s instead of making them available for purchase.
Business models based on IP would change as the behavior of innovators trended toward greater secrecy. Controlling and contracting for access to the idea would replace patent law since control of who has access would then be the inventor’s only way to maintain monopoly status. Teams of lawyers would shift gears from enforcement of Microsoft’s patents into enforcement of Microsoft’s contracts.
Is IP a monopoly enforced by the state? Yes. Lots of people on this forum bristle no matter how you parse that statement. If the market were truly a level playing field of actors, I would perhaps feel differently about IP than I presently do. As an innovator, however, I know how my own behavior would change – and I am certain I am not alone in that sentiment. While a theoretical and perfect market may not need IP protections, such a system does not presently exist.
A more utilitarian position would be to make two changes to the existing system: (1) Using Jefferson’s criteria from 1790-1793, establish a system of grants based on an objective “point value.” See Bill James’ jury trial system for reference. Presently, we grant too many patents and copyrights. (2) Reduce the incentive of exclusivity to a period of 3-5 years. In 2011, this is enough time to go-to-market with an idea. If you are not established in the market within that time, someone else can obviously make better use of your idea.
Elimination of IP is the opposite extreme of our present system. Neither provide the best answer.
Aaahhhh.. but according to the anti IP folks all that matters is what’s best for the consumer. More efficient = better, Period. Full stop. End of discussion.
It’s not the more established, bigger companies fault that they have the resources to take advantage of economies of scale, and use lower prices to push out the much smaller start ups with far less resources
and no patent protection.
It is cheaper for the consumer that way, therefore it must be superior.
He still fail to address directly the externality issue, which ironically is the gist of Sasa’s comments. Tomkow has a way of summarizing his entire arguments far more succinctly than I have ever been able to do. It is, however, satisfying to see at last an article by Kinsella where responses against his arguments outnumber those in support, counting myself, of course.
The fact that original IP laws came from royal decree is hardly surprising, given that England was a monarchy at the time. That IP cannot be a natural right given its limited term is hardly convincing, given that the natural right to life, last time I checked, also expires when you die. Ho hum.
It is hard from me to get emotional over the thought of Susan Boyle not having complete freedom of expression by covering a Lou Reed song, because someone with right to prevent her use exercised that right. I’m amused that Kinsella enlists a scene from Britain’s Got Talent episode to make the point, perhaps thinking we would all share his outrage, but it’s a little hard for me to even visualize how that might have come out; I’m thinking of Provarotti singing the Light My Fire by the Doors.
Somehow, I’m happy to do without, and if copyright laws can prevent that from happening, then that’s just another reason I’m all for them.
It was the very definition of a derivative work, so if Kinsella thinks we should all be outraged by the fact that Salinger (or his heirs) won the case, it can only be because of the very existence of copyrights in the first place, without which there could be no derivative work rights to violate or enforce. It is hard for me to be outraged that we were deprived of a rip off a book that was overrated in the first place.
To put it simply, justice was clearly served.
I can only add my practical experience. We are homebuilders and have borrowed from everyone but have copied no one. We have a small to mid sized firm that is considered “cutting edge” by the national builders. They appear to have copied much of what we have done on a much larger scale. We try to move on to the next product before they have offered something consistent with our last. Small firms have little appetite for patent disputes and we acknowledge that if we have “seen farther than others it is because we have sat on the shoulders of our predecessors”.
Homebuilding is not pharmaceuticals or technology but there are parallels.
oh my god, us anti-IP peeps have never heard the R and D argument before. None of us have ever taken micro 101. I’m sure kinsella is about to reverse his stance.
ok. seriously. Kinsella has addressed said argument myriad times. one – if IP encourages the production of goods requiring heavy R & D, then it follows that without IP there would be a relatively increased incentive to produce goods that don’t require heavy R & D. For the utilitarian, the question becomes do we give up more value by forgoing the latter, than we get of the former? For the Austrian, this question cannot be objectively answered. per rothbard, interpersonal welfare-utility comparisons are impossible.
if you tried to make a qualititative distinction between esssentially intellectual products and other products, where do you draw the line? do you have a non-arbitrary distinction?
finally: “And another thing…I hate this new software that requires a message to be broken into parts. It ruins the continuity. How is someone as verbose as I supposed to deal with that? ” – agreed.
I am trying to dig into the theory that ALL property rights are, at their core, about ‘monopoly’, conflict and force. So far, most responses look like this… :P. Ancaps don’t like it when govt is the one doing the enforcement. However, I see it as a core function of govt to protect (and define) private property. (Therefore I am a ‘minarchist’, not an ‘anarchist’??) That I have found people crazier than me, makes me happy for some reason. 😉
As a software developer, this fits in greatly with the ‘open source’ movement. ‘Open source’ makes sense along the lines of the ‘Bieber’ strategy above. Put your stuff out there for free, and you will saturate the market. And a lot of benefits follow from that.
If I borrow your car, who owns it? Although the car is in my possession, we agree to abide by certain rules which are established by you, the owner. Leasing and renting are various forms of limiting the rights, by contract, of the person in possession of a limited resource by the true owner.
If broad intellectual property rules are discarded altogether, use of new ideas will tend toward this model, as well. If the state cannot enforce the “ownership” of an idea, then the originator of the idea will seek to enforce that ownership, himself. To this degree, a greater level of secrecy will arise which is a hindrance to technological progress. Intellectual property allows an inventor to mass-market his idea; to share it with many people in an established “fair use” fashion. The overhead required for secrecy would necessarily limit access to those goods produced by the innovator.
Your headline is “How To Slow Economic Progress.” Perhaps I am reading this incorrectly, but is your intention to sloweconomic progress? Or is your point that state-enforced intellectual property constructs are slowing economic progress? I have couched my responses and refutations in terms of what causes the greater progress. I have not said that IP is a natural right (actually, the opposite); instead, I have said it serves as incentive to innovators. That incentive, however warped the current system may be, exists today. A better system requiring less intrusion, fewer lawyers, and fewer grants of intellectual property protection would lead to significantly greater economic progress. However, this is where you and I part: Abolishing the concept of intellectual property altogether would, I believe, do harm to technological and economic progress.
If your belief is that state-enforced intellectual property is immoral, unenforceable, and should be destroyed regardless of whether it benefits economic progress or not … then simply change your headline.
You might as well be arguing that humans can be property because it creates a net benefit to humanity through cheap labor. It also promotes innovation because it allows the slave owners to focus on more scholarly pursuits because they don’t have to waste as many resources on keeping up the plantation.
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