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Pro-IP “Anarchists” and anti-IP Patent Attorneys

Two sets that you would think are exceedingly rare. Over the years I’ve noticed when someone falls into either group. My notes are not comprehensive, to be sure, but here is what I’ve gathered so far.

As for the second category: I collected them previously here: Patent Lawyers Who Oppose Patent Law. They include me, my friend Tony Diehl, and a few others. However, to be honest, of everyone I’ve listed—as far as I know only Tony and I qualify as as (a) being actual practicing, registered patent attorneys who are also (b) completely opposed to the patent system. As far as I know we are the only two people in the whole world who actually understand IP and oppose it completely and on private property grounds. Everyone else either only understands IP incompletely (non-registered patent attorney) or is in favor of “reform” but not abolition or is against IP on leftish grounds. Well, two out of 7 billion people—that’s a start. I guess. But it’s always shocking to me someone can pose as a radical anti-state libertarian, and then turn around and argue for state-granted monopoly rights. Amazing.

As for the former. It’s always surprising to me when someone who claims to be an anarchist—and a libertarian anarchist, no less—still supports IP…. even though IP is a state-granted monopoly, requires the state, requires legislation, and is utterly incompatible with free markets, libertarian property rights, etc. Prominent examples include:

(I am not even including here non-anarchist and utilitarian libertarians, since so many of them have been horribly wrong on IP, namely Ayn Rand, Jan Helfeld, and … most others.)

Libertarians who were surprisingly good on IP before the Internet era include:

(In the post-1995/Internet era, more libertarians starting paying attention, and getting it mostly right, namely me, Roderick Long, Jeff Tucker, Sheldon Richman, and a few others—collected here.)

And honorable mentions:

For more, see: The Origins of Libertarian IP Abolitionism and The Four Historical Phases of IP Abolitionism.

  1. KOL 038 | Debate with Robert Wenzel on Intellectual Property. []
  2. KOL076 | IP Debate with Chris LeRoux ; Can you own ideas? Chris LeRoux debates Daniel Rothschild. []
  3.  “Locke’s Big Mistake: How the Labor Theory of Property Ruined Economics and Political Theory,” Liberty in the Pines Conference (March 2013) ; []

As discussed on this Facebook thread.

Conversation with a student (this happens pretty frequently). (some formatting has been lost)


“Hi Mr Kinsella,

My name is []. I’m a student journalist from the University of [], Australia. I’m currently researching a story on file sharing, particularly focussing on a proposed anti-piracy code the Australian federal government has recently endorsed. I wanted to get the perspective of those opposed to copyright laws, and, as you are a prominent academic opponent of intellectual property, I was wondering if you would agree to provide some comments regarding the libertarian (and your) position on these issues? I just have a couple of questions about intellectual property and copyright in general that I could send through if you are willing.

As a budding libertarian myself, I’m in sympathy with libertarian critiques intellectual property, which is why I wanted to include your perspective in the piece if possible. I’d really appreciate your contribution.

Hope to hear back from you,

[click to continue…]


Liberty Rejects my 1996 Anti-IP Article

Just came across this old letter from Liberty (and my now-friend Timo Virkkala) rejecting an anti-intellectual property piece I submitted to Liberty in 1996. A brief history: my first anti-IP writing also appeared around 1995.1 Here’s the text of the rejection letter:

June 27, 1996
N. Stephan Kinsella
Suite 3600
1600 Market Street
Philadelphia, PA 19103-4252

Dear Mr. Kinsella:

I am very sorry for taking such a long time to get back to you regarding your proposal for an article on contract theory and intellectual property rights. We’ve been kicking around the idea, and have decided that it is probably not our fare—though interesting.

In reviewing your proposal, I notice that your argument resembles that of Williamson M. Evers “Title Transfer Theory of Contract,” which appeared in JLS early on. Are you familiar with Evers’ argument?

Thanks for thinking of us. I’m glad Wendy McElroy suggested us to you, and I hope you will consider us again.

Timothy Virkkala

Interestingly, in the meantime, IP has become of intense interest among libertarians, and, in 2009 I published “Intellectual Property and Libertarianism” in Liberty.2  As for the Rothbard/Evers contract theory, in 2003 I published “A Libertarian Theory of Contract: Title Transfer, Binding Promises, and Inalienability” in the Journal of Libertarian Studies 17, no. 2 (Spring 2003), which elaborates and expands on their views.

Update: On Facebook I mentioned “The weird thing was you guys sent me a couple of rejections of other people’s articles — a weird mismatch.” Here is what I meant. See below, from earlier correspondence to Liberty (the Bank of England submission was published; see here):

Monday, March 1, 1993

Timothy Virkkala, Assistant Editor


P.O. Box 1167

Port Townsend, WA 98368

Dear Mr. Virkkala,

In your letter of February 25, 1993, you inform me that my essay, “The Hard-Core Juvenile Defender,” has not been selected for publication in Liberty. However, I did not write nor submit such an article. I did submit, in a letter dated December 18, 1992, an essay entitled “The Perpetual Federal Budget Surplus?”. If I recall, I also submitted some time thereafter a copy of my recent article “Estoppel: A New Justification for Individual Rights,” published in the latest issue of Reason Papers, along with a proposal to write a shorter, more popular version of the article for you. I would appreciate it if you would check your records and inform me of your decision on these two submissions.

Additionally, I would like to propose to you an idea for an article or perhaps for a “Guest Reflection,” which I would be happy to write if you think you would be interested in considering it for publication. The essay would concern the following:

I spent last year in London. On the pound notes, for example the £5 note, is the language: “BANK OF ENGLAND: I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of five pounds.” Well, since there is no longer any metal standard, I wondered what this could mean. The note is five pounds; what could it mean to promise to pay the bearer of it five pounds? This promissory note language is a facade, a completely illusory promise. I decided to visit the Bank of England, located in downtown London, in the Financial District, to call their bluff, to make them make good on their promise. What would they do, I wondered—hand me back another five-pound note in exchange for the one I offered?

I made it there, and was stopped at the door by security, and I could not get past the main front desk without having a three-piece suit and “official business.” In other words, the doors of the Bank were not even open to all the holders of notes which promised them that the Bank would give them five pounds “on demand” upon presentation of their “note”. I explained that my note said the Bank would give me five pounds upon demand for my note, and that I was hereby demanding that the Bank fulfill its obligations under the note. The man behind the front desk had little patience and told me that perhaps I’d find some information if I went to the Bank of England Museum around the corner.

So I left and went to the Museum, which is quite nice, actually. I explained to a curator what had happened, and that I was interested in finding out exactly what the language could mean, since obviously it didn’t function as an actual promise to pay me five pounds—they wouldn’t even let me in the door! She went into a back room, and finally dug up an old photocopy, from God knows what source, which attempts to explain the meaning and evolution of the “I promise to pay the bearer” language. I took the pages home, and tried to understand them. Apparently, the Bank is contending now that the language only means, and only ever meant, that the Bank has an obligation to replace old, out-of-circulation pound notes with new, in-circulation ones. Right. That’s what “I promise to pay bearer on demand the sum of five pounds” means.

If you would be interested in this essay idea, please let me know and I will be happy to submit a finalized version, which would contain more elaboration on the nature of money and the “legal tender” language in the U.S., to you for your consideration. If you have any questions or comments, please do not hesitate to call or write.


Friday, May 7, 1993

Timothy Virkkala, Assistant Editor


P.O. Box 1167

Port Townsend, WA 98368


Dear Mr. Virkkala,

I have previously submitted to you several pieces for your consideration for possible publication in Liberty. These include:

A. In a letter dated December 18, 1992, an essay entitled “The Perpetual Federal Budget Surplus?”;

B. a copy of my recent article “Estoppel: A New Justification for Individual Rights,” published in the latest issue of Reason Papers, along with a proposal to write a shorter, more popular version of the article for you

C. in a letter dated March 1, 1993, a proposal for an article concerning my visit to the Bank of England and my attempt to collect on the ten-pound note’s “I promise to pay bearer on demand the sum of ten pounds” language.

I am still awaiting word from you regarding these items. If you recall, we did have a mixup where, after submitting item 1 above, you, in your letter of February 25, 1993, informed me that my essay, “The Hard-Core Juvenile Defender,” had not been selected for publication, although I did not write that article.

I would like to submit some further articles and items for publication in your magazine. They are enclosed with this letter and a description of them is provided below.

1. A poem entitled “Big Enough”;

2. a short story entitled “The Subjectivist’s Lament”; and

3. an article entitled “Freedom vs. Government”, which was published in July 1989 in an obscure underground LSU student newspaper called The Wonderland Times.

  1.  Letter on Intellectual Property RightsIOS Journal 5, no. 2 (June 1995), pp. 12-13 ; see also  My IP OdysseyRoderick Long: Bye-Bye for IPRoderick Long Finally Realizes IP is Unjustified; The Four Historical Phases of IP Abolitionism; and The Origins of Libertarian IP AbolitionismMy IP Odyssey.  []
  2. Vol. 23, no. 11 (Dec. 2009), p. 27;   blog postlocal PDF; Liberty‘s online version; see also “Intellectual Property and Libertarianism,” Mises Daily (Nov. 17, 2009); based on speech at Mises University 2009 (July 30, 2009; audio; video); speech podcast on The Lew Rockwell Show, #131, as The Intellectual Property Racket (Aug. 19, 2009). []

Can you own ideas? Chris LeRoux debates Daniel Rothschild

Amusing “debate” between Daniel Rothschild and perennial pro-IP “libertarian” pest Chris LeRoux (aka Sid “Non Vicious” Leroux, Chris Propertarian, etc. etc.). Rothschild has amazing perseverance trying to penetrate the muddled thinking and confusions and ever-shifting positions of LeRoux, or whatever his name really is.


There may be some others but I can’t recall them offhand—there are a few perennial pro-IP “libertarian” pests, like Shayne Wissler, Silas Barta (aka “Person,” “John Sharp,” “Richard Harding”).


Stossel Show on Intellectual Property


Full episode now available on the official Fox page here:

See also KOL171 | With Albert Lu Discussing Stossel and IP.

Unofficial YouTube version:


A few weeks ago I was invited to appear on an upcoming episode of John Stossel’s Fox Business News show, Stossel. I flew to New York last Wednesday for a Thursday taping; the show will air this Friday, Jan. 30.  I had a great time. Had dinner with several local libertarian friends (David Kramer, Isaac Bergmann, Evan Isaac, etc.) and my long-time friend Jack Criss, who joined me on the trip. Spent a while seeing New York, with my friend Dante Bayona as a helpful guide. New York was cold, but we still enjoyed it. (Pix from the trip below.)

The taping on Thursday went well—I was nervous but think I did okay. There were five guests altogether. The first segment was a debate between anti-IP anarchist David Koepsell and a conventional IP stossel - it's my ideaattorney; then a magician who was upset about people “stealing” his magic tricks; then me; then Chris Sprigman, about whom I’ve written before. I was a little leery that this was kind of a setup or something, but Stossel and the Fox News staff could not have been nicer or more professional. My impression is Stossel is leaning our way, as indicated in his Reason post, which quote me and Koepsell and criticizes IP (Owning Ideas—An Outdated Idea?; see also his column Owning Ideas). As far as I know this is the first time IP has been examined in such a major, national forum, and from a principled, and radical, free market perspective. Kudos to Stossel.

More on Stossel’s show here. The episode airs 9pm EST this Friday night, Jan. 30, on Fox Business, and apparently re-airs on Fox News Channel Sunday night.


The full version of the episode is not yet available on the Fox News site, but should be shortly. In the meantime, a “pirated” version of my segment is already online:


Over the holidays, I was reading a book, and was asked by some family members what I was reading. My reply was, “probably a book that only 3 people in the world have read.” The book is Intellectual Property Rights: A Critical History, by Christopher May and Susan K. Sell (2005). The authors seem so far to be generally averse to IP and clearly recognize IP is not a natural property right, in any case.

I came across a nice passage on pp. 1-2, ch 1. The authors explain that AIDS medicines are too expensive for many patients, especially poor ones in developing nations, because of the premium price that results from the patent monopoly.

“To deal with this problem, in the 1990s Ghana and Brazil tried to import from Indian manufacturers cheaper generic versions of the AIDS-cocktail’s component drugs. This action reflected a long history of nonprotection for foreign pharmaceutical patents in India, where a large generic manufacturing sector had developed since independence. this competition from generics prompted some multinational pharmaceutical companies to offer discounts on their AIDS drug treatments…

“The use of generic substitutes for patented drugs also spurred legal action on behalf of Merck and others by the United States against Brazil at the World Trade Organization (WTO), however. The US Trade Representative (USTR) argued that the production and use of generics were directly in contravention of international law and that there could be no justification for the appropriation [sic] of US companies’ (intellectual) property. This was theft, and the USTR vigorously protested that it helped no one. Despite being subsequently dropped owing to political pressure, this action reveals much about the overall attitude of the office of the USTR [U.S. Trade Representative]: whatever the human costs, intellectual property rights (IPRs) must be upheld.

“Although it seems obvious that the AIDS crisis in Africa is an exceptional public health emergency, it took considerable effort to negotiate the 2001 Doha Declaration on the TRIPs Agreement and Public Health as well as the subsequent agreement on implementing paragraph 6 …. Although this agreement contains provisions for compulsory licenses in exceptional circumstances [i.e., generics could be manufactured without consent of the patent holder], under pressure from the US government and specifically the USTR, the provision has been largely disregarded since 1995. In protecting the interests of its national companies, the USTR has argued that protecting the IPRs of the large pharmaceutical companies that produce many of the AIDS-related drugs used in treatments around the world is imperative. Thus, for instance, despite its severe AIDS problem, at the end of the 1990s when Thailand acceded [sic] to the TRIPs agreement, the Thai government specifically undertook not to implement Article 8 (on compulsory licensing) for HIV/AIDS treatment.”

For more on this, see:

See also my Facebook post here:

I’ve mentioned before that Cato scholars have inexplicably come out in FAVOR of the horrendous, fascist, IP-pushing TPP, in an article by Daniel “Ikenson” (http://c4sif.org/…/longer-copyright-terms-stiffer-copyrigh…/).

People have told me that just b/c they have one scholar in favor of something does not mean it’s an institutional position. MMhhmm.

Check out this Democracy Now “debate” about the TPP, between Bill Watson, a trade policy analyst at the Cato Institute, and Lori Wallach, director of Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch. Now what is disheartening for the libertarian listening to this debate (which starts around 11:00) is that almost everything Wallach says is correct and on the libertarian side. She notes that the TPP is not about free trade at all; only a small number of its (still secret) chapters even purport to deal with free trade; the major portion leaked so far is on IP and is pure American company special interest rent-seeking: attempting to lock stronger and longer copyright and patent law into US law via treaty and to export it to the rest of the world; that is, to increase the monopoly privilege of patent and copyright, to reduce internet and artistic freedom, to increase the prices of pharmaceuticals, etc. She is 100% correct to oppose the TPP on her anti-IP grounds, and she is right to condemn patent and copyright as monopolies that benefit special interests and harm the public and consumers.

Inexplicably, Cato’s Bill Watson defends the TPP and fast track *even though* he seems to agree with Wallach that the IP chapter is “problematic” (he nowhere seems to condemn it as monopoly and bad, in as clear terms as she does, however).

Utterly bizarre, when we true free-trade, anti-IP libertarians, find more in common with “Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch” than with an allegedly free-trade, libertarian organization.

People often tell me that I should not harp on IP so much, or make it a litmus test; that even if I am right about IP, reasonable libertarians can disagree. Well this is an example of why it’s important to get this very important issue right. It is in fact one of the most important libertarian issues (http://c4sif.org/…/where-does-ip-rank-among-the-worst-stat…/), and getting this issue wrong leads people to error on other important issues. As an example, a few years back, several Cato scholars explicitly opposed free trade in drug reimportation in the name of upholding American companies’ pharmaceutical patent monopoly pricing model; unbelievable (see footnote 1 http://c4sif.org/…/objectivist-worried-obamacare-may-weak…/… ; footnote 4 of http://c4sif.org/…/pro-ip-libertarians-upset-about-ftc-po…/…).

Cato’s forums on IP are invariably about IP reform. Only one time can I remember someone for IP abolition, which was Tom Bell, and that (IIRC) only on the issue of copyright (not patent). Their former scholar Tom Palmer was one of the early IP abolitionists but his work was never highlighted there and indeed he seemed to backpeddle a bit in later years on pharmaceutical patents (as mentioned here: http://mises.org/daily/3682 see: http://tomgpalmer.com/…/alive-thanks-to-pharmaceutical-pr…/… and http://tomgpalmer.com/…/healthy-profits-to-help-sick-peop…/… )

One wonders if Cato has lots of pro-patent big business/big pharma donors, and the quasi/former Objectivists in their ranks (http://c4sif.org/…/does-catos-new-objectivist-ceo-john-all…/) which leads them to continually favor IP and downplay the IP abolition case.

Sad when libertarian groups are bad on this issue (http://c4sif.org/…/canadas-free-market-fraser-institute-ur…/). It’s as bad as being bad on taxes, slavery, free trade, the drug war. Down with IP.



Two Bad Arguments Against IP

I’ve noted before the dearth of good arguments for intellectual property (There are No Good Arguments for Intellectual Property). In a recent Facebook post, I mentioned two weak/confused arguments used against IP arguments and claims.

The first one is that copyright by contract would be illegitimate because if you sell something the buyer “completely owns” it. I.e., IP people often argue that copyright is legitimate because the publisher “could” make the buyer “sign a contract” not to copy or learn from or use or remember the book, and that would (could?) end up creating something like a copyright regime. They are completely wrong about this for a number of reasons (such contracts could not bind third parties, they are totally impracticable, etc.). But one argument against this (ridiculous) contract argument is that the buyer of the book “owns the whole book” and therefore the contract is “null and void” (or some such layman language that sounds like it came out of an income tax protestor nut’s reading of Black’s Law Dictionary). However, I think this argument is flawed. THere is nothing illegitimate about co-ownership or contractual arrangements. If I loan you my book or my car for particular uses, you do now own the entire book or car and some uses could be considered some type of trespass, property violation, or contract breach. It’s just that such contracts (a) are ridiculously uncommercial [would not be popular] and (b) would not create IP anyway, since IP is an in rem [property] right good against the world and contract is in personam–between the parties–and you can’t get in rem property rights from contract rights.

The second one is usually a response given to the charge that people who “copyright” their works yet who oppose copyright are hypocrites. There are many problems with latter argument. First, you don’t copyright things; it’s automatic; the holder of the copyright cannot be a hypocrite if he is not intentionally doing anything. SEcond, even if he were a hypocrite, that does not mean IP is justified. It’s really just a stupid argument. However, some IP opponents will say something like “well the reason I copyrighted it was to prevent someone else from taking my work and getting a copyright on it and stopping me from being able to publish my own work.” This is simply not the way copyright law works.

There is a grain of truth in this comment when it comes to patent and trademark, but not copyright. For patents, it is possible for A to invent X and keep it as a trade secret, and then for B to later invent X independently and then get a patent and sue A; that was always the risk of using trade secret instead of patent (that was in fact the intent of the patent system–to encourage people to disclose information that would otherwise be kept secret); yet this risk is lower now after the Obama America Invents Act, which provides a more general and robust prior user right. In any case, that has to do with patent not copyright.

And in the field of trademark if you do not enforce your trademark there is a chance it could become generic, as in Kleenex and Xerox becoming generic terms–but all this means is you would lose your trademark rights — your legal right to stop others–not your right to use the mark. In any case, that is about trademark not copyright. In the case of copyright, it is the author who obtains a copyright (again: automatically): and even if the first author could somehow make his work “public domain” [he can’t] by “failing to copyright it” [he can’t; as it’s automatic], that still would not permit a second person to “copyright” the work since the second person would not be its author.

So, there: I admit it: two slightly confused arguments often used by the anti-IP side.



Yet another great piece of analysis from Rick Falkvinge:



Throughout history, those who have copied the most have also always been the most prosperous, and for that reason. Bans on copying, like the copyright and patent monopolies, are just plain industrial protectionism.

copyright-brandedIt often helps to understand present time by looking at history, and seeing how history keeps repeating itself over and over.

In the late 1700s, the United Kingdom was the empire that established laws on the globe. The United States was still largely a colony – even if not formally so, it was referred to as such in the civilized world, meaning France and the United Kingdom.

The UK had a strictly protectionist view of trade: all raw materials must come to England, and all luxury goods must be made from those materials while in the UK, to be exported to the rest of the world. Long story short, the UK was where the value was to be created.

Laws were written to lock in this effect. Bringing the ability to refine materials somewhere else, the mere knowledge, was illegal. “Illegal copying”, more precisely.

Let’s look at a particularly horrible criminal from that time, Samuel Slater. In the UK, he was even known as “Slater the Traitor”. His crime was to memorize the drawings of a British textile mill, move to New York, and copy the whole of the British textile mill from memory – something very illegal. For this criminal act, building the so-called Slater Mill, he was hailed as “the father of the American Industrial Revolution” by those who would later displace the dominance of the UK – namely the United States. This copy-criminal also has a whole town named after him. [click to continue…]


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